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		<title>How do you talk about a four year old photograph of nothing?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ross Evertson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Four years or fourteen, but so often of nothing. What other years old innocuous impulse are we ever held accountable for? Not even the closest relationships of people with incredible memories are people expected to explain why they decided not to take off their clothes before they fell asleep. Whatever charm the things we do that [...]]]></description>
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<p>Four years or fourteen, but so often of nothing. What other years old innocuous impulse are we ever held accountable for? Not even the closest relationships of people with incredible memories are people expected to explain why they decided not to take off their clothes before they fell asleep. Whatever charm the things we do that must be done but do not matter have in a life of someone who pays attention can be suffocated by documentation. There is an expectation of meaning, and what a terrible expectation of a document that has no desire to be substantive. What a frustrating thing to want from an exercise, from a result of practice. I remember walking through the alley and hearing my R.M. Williams crunch the sand and glass, I remember having the camera in my back pocket, I remember seeing the rectangle of light on the door and walking backwards a few steps, I remember looking at the shot counter. It was four years ago and I remember thinking at that very moment about taking meaningless photos. Of all people, I love to apply meaning to things, I like forcing these arbitrary images into formats and contexts that imply that there are connections, that they are relevant. I can&#8217;t help but see, during that whole process, that it seems very much like taking a few nervous tics and uncomfortable nights and calling it a syndrome.</p>
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		<title>Captions &amp; Accountability</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ross Evertson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ben Curtis/Associated Press Errol Morris has a new post on NYT.com concerning the nature of photographic captions in his interview with war photographer Ben Curtis titled It Was All Started by a Mouse. It is typical war photo commentary fare, from the editorial process to photoshopping, etc. Then Ben Curtis says I’m looking at the [...]]]></description>
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<em>Ben Curtis/Associated Press</em></p>
<p>Errol Morris has a new post on NYT.com concerning the nature of photographic captions in his interview with war photographer Ben Curtis titled <a href="http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/03/it-was-all-started-by-a-mouse-part-1/?th&amp;emc=th" target="_blank">It Was All Started by a Mouse.</a> It is typical war photo commentary fare, from the editorial process to photoshopping, etc.</p>
<p>Then Ben Curtis says</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m looking at the Mickey Mouse picture again. A reader might infer from that, that a child had been killed in the attack and that this toy belonged to some child who is dead somewhere. Okay, you’re a reader, you can infer that if you want. But we’re not saying that. <em>I’m</em> not saying that. I’m saying it’s a child’s toy lying in the middle of a street after an air strike. That’s all I’m saying. If you want to infer from that what you want, that’s your prerogative, but you can’t then criticize us for that, you know?</p></blockquote>
<p>It is disappointing, both that a war photographer thinks this way and is comfortable enough to say it in an interview with Errol Morris in the New York Times, and that Morris let&#8217;s him get away with it.</p>
<p>I find it surprising that any contemporary photographer can pretend photography, <em>especially</em> war photography, is objective. I don&#8217;t want to criticize Curtis for making the photograph (and not because he tells us that we cannot) but I want to chide him for taking the easy way out, while masking it as the high road.</p>
<p>Editorializing in war photography is just as unavoidable as it is in photography in any other form. It is admirable to attempt to be as objective as possible, but to suggest that photographers infer nothing with their images is disingenuous.</p>
<p>Though I am sure that I have no idea what it is like “in the shit,” it really doesn&#8217;t seem like ignoring the nature of photography to shirk accountability does much for your credibility.</p>
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		<title>The question of where to stand</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 23:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ross Evertson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Port Dover, Ontario 2009 “The question of where to stand is interesting. What we’re really talking about is a vantage point. If you look at amateurs or people taking pictures, they do funny things. Most people obviously don’t know where to stand. They’re standing too close, they’re contorted. They’re humorous to watch, people who photograph, [...]]]></description>
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<em>Port Dover, Ontario 2009</em></p>
<p>“The question of where to stand is interesting. What we’re really talking about is a vantage point. If you look at amateurs or people taking pictures, they do funny things. Most people obviously don’t know where to stand. They’re standing too close, they’re contorted. They’re humorous to watch, people who photograph, especially people who aren’t in tune with their equipment, because they don’t know when they pick it up what it will do. If you work with the same equipment for a long time, you get more in tune to what is possible. But within that there are still surprises. But using a camera day after day after day, within a framework I’ll do the same thing. I’ll back up and I’ll go forward with my body.</p>
<p>You don’t have to be a fancy photographer to learn where to stand. Basically you’re stuck with the frame and just like the person taking a picture of his family, who needs to go half a foot back—well, he doesn’t step half a foot back—but on the other hand, he knows where to be if he hits it right. Now when you watch tennis you not only have the commentators, you have the best of the old pros. You know how they repeatedly say “Look at the way his back was formed when he took that shot.” it is really important to them. They see that as a possibility of where the thing went. Probably the same thing is true of all of us.”</p>
<p><em>—Lee Friedlander</em></p>
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		<title>Is graphic design art?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ross Evertson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My friend Mike Essl made a website encapsulating the perpetual question between the disciplines of art and design. Totally stripped of context and debate, free from the defense of ego people can vote on one of the most annoying questions that follows designers from their first viz comm class to their death bed interview. http://isgraphicdesignart.com/ [...]]]></description>
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<p>My friend Mike Essl made a website encapsulating the perpetual question between the disciplines of art and design. Totally stripped of context and debate, free from the defense of ego people can vote on one of the most annoying questions that follows designers from their first viz comm class to their death bed interview.</p>
<p><a href="http://isgraphicdesignart.com/" target="_blank">http://isgraphicdesignart.com/</a></p>
<p>There are so many levels to both “disciplines”—from a preteen grandson making a website for his grandmothers quilts, to Damien Hirst living to see himself make millions and millions of dollars—how do we place ourselves on this spectrum for the purposes of a conversation like this?</p>
<p>I imagine, for most people that are informed in an average way about the fact there is potentially a difference between design and art, it is a matter of “I know it when I see it.” I think this is a totally reasonable place for most people to be. After years and years of their son going to various school for design, photography, and fine art, my parents still don’t understand why or how I delineate those three things, and they get along just fine.</p>
<p>For me, I stopped worrying about the delineation because it served no real purpose except for to occasionally help describe what I do in a more palatable way. To my wife’s parents I am an “art director” because that is my most recent job title. To my brother I am a photographer because that is what he sees me doing.</p>
<p>I don’t know many people making a living as a graphic designer, art director, creative director, design researcher, design analyst, interaction designer or anything else calling themselves “artists.” At least in regards to their day job. They don’t have any need or interest in defending any particular position. Design being design is just fine, they don’t have to aspire to be artists.</p>
<p>All this terminology is very loaded for anyone even remotely creative. I remember my first art history course, and the teacher kept referring to “plastic” and an hour or so into class a girl stood up and screamed “WHY THE HELL DO YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT PLASTICS!?”</p>
<p>Since we all have different backgrounds and have no idea what someone else might think the word plastic means in the context of art history, it is very hard to have our comments accurately received.</p>
<p>In a conversation with Mike last night he put it simply, “…graphic design is graphic design. I don’t care for it to be anything else.”</p>
<p><strong>NOTE</strong> This has been reposted from my old blog. The original post was made on November 13th, 2008. Below is Mike&#8217;s comment.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>I stole the “graphic design is graphic design” comment from my friend and fellow designer <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.noordeman.com/">Arjen Noordeman</a>. Thank you for posting this.</em></p></blockquote>
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